workshop request Web based Community Environmental Monitoring
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- Latest post made by a.watkins at 2009 Dec 22 09:58 NZDT
It would be very useful if the several agencies that are developing Web based Community Environmental Monitoring could have a workshop. Would you like to visit Taranaki mid-January? Or have an Adobe Connect call? I am very pleased with the way that TERRAIN works http://www.terrain.net.nz <http://www.terrain.net.nz/> (Taranaki Educational Resource: Research, Analysis and Information Network) It melds the web Content Management System to digital archives of text, audio, image (kete), and to GIS. All the needs that Nick and Andrew identify may be accommodated, as it was designed primarily with biodiversity needs in mind. It allows the use of on-line data/location entry (point and click web maps and web-forms), mapping, database updates, GPS connection, connects to wireless hub data-loggers (being used for both a penguin monitoring project and weather monitoring project),allows collaboration between stakeholders about site data, Public Participatory GIS (values identification), on-line questionnaires, and relaying data to national databases, etc. It would be useful to demonstrate TERRAIN, hear constructive criticism, and for you to see which aspects suit your developments. TERRAIN runs wholly on Open Source Software - and sits outside the firewalls and strictures of government departments (which often struggle with allowing programmes that staff wish to use). Lowest cost, highly adaptable. I had hoped to collaborate with the Landcare OurFuture Project http://www.ourfuture.net.nz/map.html - but our funding was a year ahead. with regards from Elise Smith Convenor, TERRAIN Ministry of Internal Affairs "Community Partnership Fund" project CPF112
-----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Nick Spencer Sent: Monday, 14 December 2009 10:56 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring Landcare is actually developing this very thing (i.e. Web based Community Environmental Monitoring that provides Places -> location -> measurements -> values optionally encapsulated by projects) at present. We had an initial look at a basic CMS approach but for our purposes found a streamlined custom build suited us and gave maximum flexibility without the overhead of a full CMS offering. The system will complement the NZBRN but allow us to target different audiences and purposes with the option of repurposing the infrastructure for different communities and uses. This would range from true community efforts through to a platform for capturing more rigorous observations that one might collect as part of structured research. We will also be exploring other data acquisition approaches beyond the standard web interface, such as mobile devices, and also look to provide web-based services that would allow the system to accept contributions and respond to queries from other systems. We will have our first prototypes available by Christmas and hope to make these available externally for comment. We would appreciate any feedback and suggestions. We haven't thought too much about how to position this platform beyond Landcare's initial goals, but there appears to be a need for such systems and support Andrews comment that a generic system that many could use is the way to go. Please get in touch if you'd like to talk over possibilities, otherwise I'll post details of when the prototype is available in this forum. Cheers Nick -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Andrew Watkins Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 2:42 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring NIWA is considering a number of community environmental data acquisition and monitoring projects. These have a wide range of common features which leads to the idea that we could provide a generic system to support such projects. I'm looking for software and tools that will assist in the construction of a web based community environmental monitoring system. The system has elements of web content management system, Database 4GL, wiki, and web forms. The underlying data models have a natural hierarchy Places -> location -> measurements -> values Each project gathers data about some type of place: Beaches, Estuaries, Lakes, Rivers etc. At each place measurements are taken at a location and form a time series measurements follow a process and result in one or more readings or values. values have a type and the data might be numbers, text or even photos or sound files. Each of these entities need to be definable in the system and have a set of attributes: name, description, representation etc. so for example in beach monitoring the group may wish to record just the name and location of the beach, while in river monitoring they may wish to add the NZ Reach ID. So defining a project involves defining the place type - and its attributes, the measurement types, the value types. For each we would want user entry forms and validation. Ultimately all the data gathered ends up in a database and groups can view reports, charts etc. My team could write all this but I can't help feeling that something like this flexible dynamic forms and data system must already exist. Either because someone already built a flexible environmental data collection system, or because it exists in some other parallel industry. If I do find or build a solution for this do any other groups have use for such a beast? Comments and suggestions appreciated. Regards Andrew NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd. ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/4m64sjIbjZLkaY1pitcEr5 To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. 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Elise suggested: > It would be very useful if the several agencies that are developing Web > based Community Environmental Monitoring could have a workshop. Would you > like to visit Taranaki mid-January? Or have an Adobe Connect call? Sounds like a good idea to me. A third option would be to incorporate this in the 2010 national Dataversity Workshop. http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/l4NmWTSou47u3L37XFbjE Andrew, Nick, Colin, others, what is your level of interest in this idea? with regards,
Dan
This seems like a good idea
________________________________________ From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Dan Randow <email obscured>] Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 4:09 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring Elise suggested: > It would be very useful if the several agencies that are developing Web > based Community Environmental Monitoring could have a workshop. Would you > like to visit Taranaki mid-January? Or have an Adobe Connect call? Sounds like a good idea to me. A third option would be to incorporate this in the 2010 national Dataversity Workshop. http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/l4NmWTSou47u3L37XFbjE Andrew, Nick, Colin, others, what is your level of interest in this idea? with regards, Dan ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/3lmcUb6OxEXsZqwVepxFcd To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. The views expressed in this email may not be those of Landcare Research New Zealand Limited. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz
We at DOC would like to be involved in this workshop. Later in January would suit better than mid January. We are also happy if it was linked to the timing of the Dataversity workshop but that is not until March. Lynette Lynette Hartley, Data Analyst, Ecosystems and Species Unit Five Minute Bird Count Database Administrator 5MBC website Department of Conservation, Research and Development Group PO Box 13049, Christchurch 8141, New Zealand, DDI (03) 378 9562
-----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Elise Smith Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:57 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring It would be very useful if the several agencies that are developing Web based Community Environmental Monitoring could have a workshop. Would you like to visit Taranaki mid-January? Or have an Adobe Connect call? I am very pleased with the way that TERRAIN works http://www.terrain.net.nz <http://www.terrain.net.nz/> (Taranaki Educational Resource: Research, Analysis and Information Network) It melds the web Content Management System to digital archives of text, audio, image (kete), and to GIS. All the needs that Nick and Andrew identify may be accommodated, as it was designed primarily with biodiversity needs in mind. It allows the use of on-line data/location entry (point and click web maps and web-forms), mapping, database updates, GPS connection, connects to wireless hub data-loggers (being used for both a penguin monitoring project and weather monitoring project),allows collaboration between stakeholders about site data, Public Participatory GIS (values identification), on-line questionnaires, and relaying data to national databases, etc. It would be useful to demonstrate TERRAIN, hear constructive criticism, and for you to see which aspects suit your developments. TERRAIN runs wholly on Open Source Software - and sits outside the firewalls and strictures of government departments (which often struggle with allowing programmes that staff wish to use). Lowest cost, highly adaptable. I had hoped to collaborate with the Landcare OurFuture Project http://www.ourfuture.net.nz/map.html - but our funding was a year ahead. with regards from Elise Smith Convenor, TERRAIN Ministry of Internal Affairs "Community Partnership Fund" project CPF112 -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Nick Spencer Sent: Monday, 14 December 2009 10:56 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring Landcare is actually developing this very thing (i.e. Web based Community Environmental Monitoring that provides Places -> location -> measurements -> values optionally encapsulated by projects) at present. We had an initial look at a basic CMS approach but for our purposes found a streamlined custom build suited us and gave maximum flexibility without the overhead of a full CMS offering. The system will complement the NZBRN but allow us to target different audiences and purposes with the option of repurposing the infrastructure for different communities and uses. This would range from true community efforts through to a platform for capturing more rigorous observations that one might collect as part of structured research. We will also be exploring other data acquisition approaches beyond the standard web interface, such as mobile devices, and also look to provide web-based services that would allow the system to accept contributions and respond to queries from other systems. We will have our first prototypes available by Christmas and hope to make these available externally for comment. We would appreciate any feedback and suggestions. We haven't thought too much about how to position this platform beyond Landcare's initial goals, but there appears to be a need for such systems and support Andrews comment that a generic system that many could use is the way to go. Please get in touch if you'd like to talk over possibilities, otherwise I'll post details of when the prototype is available in this forum. Cheers Nick -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Andrew Watkins Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 2:42 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring NIWA is considering a number of community environmental data acquisition and monitoring projects. These have a wide range of common features which leads to the idea that we could provide a generic system to support such projects. I'm looking for software and tools that will assist in the construction of a web based community environmental monitoring system. The system has elements of web content management system, Database 4GL, wiki, and web forms. The underlying data models have a natural hierarchy Places -> location -> measurements -> values Each project gathers data about some type of place: Beaches, Estuaries, Lakes, Rivers etc. At each place measurements are taken at a location and form a time series measurements follow a process and result in one or more readings or values. values have a type and the data might be numbers, text or even photos or sound files. Each of these entities need to be definable in the system and have a set of attributes: name, description, representation etc. so for example in beach monitoring the group may wish to record just the name and location of the beach, while in river monitoring they may wish to add the NZ Reach ID. So defining a project involves defining the place type - and its attributes, the measurement types, the value types. For each we would want user entry forms and validation. Ultimately all the data gathered ends up in a database and groups can view reports, charts etc. My team could write all this but I can't help feeling that something like this flexible dynamic forms and data system must already exist. Either because someone already built a flexible environmental data collection system, or because it exists in some other parallel industry. If I do find or build a solution for this do any other groups have use for such a beast? Comments and suggestions appreciated. Regards Andrew NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd. ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/4m64sjIbjZLkaY1pitcEr5 To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. 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I'd like to attend but will be unavailable from jan25 until after 15 Feb - the march date would probably suit better colin
-----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Lynette Hartley Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 9:30 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring We at DOC would like to be involved in this workshop. Later in January would suit better than mid January. We are also happy if it was linked to the timing of the Dataversity workshop but that is not until March. Lynette Lynette Hartley, Data Analyst, Ecosystems and Species Unit Five Minute Bird Count Database Administrator 5MBC website Department of Conservation, Research and Development Group PO Box 13049, Christchurch 8141, New Zealand, DDI (03) 378 9562 -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Elise Smith Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:57 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring It would be very useful if the several agencies that are developing Web based Community Environmental Monitoring could have a workshop. Would you like to visit Taranaki mid-January? Or have an Adobe Connect call? I am very pleased with the way that TERRAIN works http://www.terrain.net.nz <http://www.terrain.net.nz/> (Taranaki Educational Resource: Research, Analysis and Information Network) It melds the web Content Management System to digital archives of text, audio, image (kete), and to GIS. All the needs that Nick and Andrew identify may be accommodated, as it was designed primarily with biodiversity needs in mind. It allows the use of on-line data/location entry (point and click web maps and web-forms), mapping, database updates, GPS connection, connects to wireless hub data-loggers (being used for both a penguin monitoring project and weather monitoring project),allows collaboration between stakeholders about site data, Public Participatory GIS (values identification), on-line questionnaires, and relaying data to national databases, etc. It would be useful to demonstrate TERRAIN, hear constructive criticism, and for you to see which aspects suit your developments. TERRAIN runs wholly on Open Source Software - and sits outside the firewalls and strictures of government departments (which often struggle with allowing programmes that staff wish to use). Lowest cost, highly adaptable. I had hoped to collaborate with the Landcare OurFuture Project http://www.ourfuture.net.nz/map.html - but our funding was a year ahead. with regards from Elise Smith Convenor, TERRAIN Ministry of Internal Affairs "Community Partnership Fund" project CPF112 -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Nick Spencer Sent: Monday, 14 December 2009 10:56 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring Landcare is actually developing this very thing (i.e. Web based Community Environmental Monitoring that provides Places -> location -> measurements -> values optionally encapsulated by projects) at present. We had an initial look at a basic CMS approach but for our purposes found a streamlined custom build suited us and gave maximum flexibility without the overhead of a full CMS offering. The system will complement the NZBRN but allow us to target different audiences and purposes with the option of repurposing the infrastructure for different communities and uses. This would range from true community efforts through to a platform for capturing more rigorous observations that one might collect as part of structured research. We will also be exploring other data acquisition approaches beyond the standard web interface, such as mobile devices, and also look to provide web-based services that would allow the system to accept contributions and respond to queries from other systems. We will have our first prototypes available by Christmas and hope to make these available externally for comment. We would appreciate any feedback and suggestions. We haven't thought too much about how to position this platform beyond Landcare's initial goals, but there appears to be a need for such systems and support Andrews comment that a generic system that many could use is the way to go. Please get in touch if you'd like to talk over possibilities, otherwise I'll post details of when the prototype is available in this forum. Cheers Nick -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Andrew Watkins Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 2:42 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring NIWA is considering a number of community environmental data acquisition and monitoring projects. These have a wide range of common features which leads to the idea that we could provide a generic system to support such projects. I'm looking for software and tools that will assist in the construction of a web based community environmental monitoring system. The system has elements of web content management system, Database 4GL, wiki, and web forms. The underlying data models have a natural hierarchy Places -> location -> measurements -> values Each project gathers data about some type of place: Beaches, Estuaries, Lakes, Rivers etc. At each place measurements are taken at a location and form a time series measurements follow a process and result in one or more readings or values. values have a type and the data might be numbers, text or even photos or sound files. Each of these entities need to be definable in the system and have a set of attributes: name, description, representation etc. so for example in beach monitoring the group may wish to record just the name and location of the beach, while in river monitoring they may wish to add the NZ Reach ID. So defining a project involves defining the place type - and its attributes, the measurement types, the value types. For each we would want user entry forms and validation. Ultimately all the data gathered ends up in a database and groups can view reports, charts etc. My team could write all this but I can't help feeling that something like this flexible dynamic forms and data system must already exist. Either because someone already built a flexible environmental data collection system, or because it exists in some other parallel industry. If I do find or build a solution for this do any other groups have use for such a beast? Comments and suggestions appreciated. Regards Andrew NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd. ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/4m64sjIbjZLkaY1pitcEr5 To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. 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I'm interested in learning more. The March date is better for me. Paul Fisher
-----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Colin Meurk Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:38 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring I'd like to attend but will be unavailable from jan25 until after 15 Feb - the march date would probably suit better colin -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Lynette Hartley Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 9:30 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring We at DOC would like to be involved in this workshop. Later in January would suit better than mid January. We are also happy if it was linked to the timing of the Dataversity workshop but that is not until March. Lynette Lynette Hartley, Data Analyst, Ecosystems and Species Unit Five Minute Bird Count Database Administrator 5MBC website Department of Conservation, Research and Development Group PO Box 13049, Christchurch 8141, New Zealand, DDI (03) 378 9562 -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Elise Smith Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:57 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring It would be very useful if the several agencies that are developing Web based Community Environmental Monitoring could have a workshop. Would you like to visit Taranaki mid-January? Or have an Adobe Connect call? I am very pleased with the way that TERRAIN works http://www.terrain.net.nz <http://www.terrain.net.nz/> (Taranaki Educational Resource: Research, Analysis and Information Network) It melds the web Content Management System to digital archives of text, audio, image (kete), and to GIS. All the needs that Nick and Andrew identify may be accommodated, as it was designed primarily with biodiversity needs in mind. It allows the use of on-line data/location entry (point and click web maps and web-forms), mapping, database updates, GPS connection, connects to wireless hub data-loggers (being used for both a penguin monitoring project and weather monitoring project),allows collaboration between stakeholders about site data, Public Participatory GIS (values identification), on-line questionnaires, and relaying data to national databases, etc. It would be useful to demonstrate TERRAIN, hear constructive criticism, and for you to see which aspects suit your developments. TERRAIN runs wholly on Open Source Software - and sits outside the firewalls and strictures of government departments (which often struggle with allowing programmes that staff wish to use). Lowest cost, highly adaptable. I had hoped to collaborate with the Landcare OurFuture Project http://www.ourfuture.net.nz/map.html - but our funding was a year ahead. with regards from Elise Smith Convenor, TERRAIN Ministry of Internal Affairs "Community Partnership Fund" project CPF112 -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Nick Spencer Sent: Monday, 14 December 2009 10:56 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring Landcare is actually developing this very thing (i.e. Web based Community Environmental Monitoring that provides Places -> location -> measurements -> values optionally encapsulated by projects) at present. We had an initial look at a basic CMS approach but for our purposes found a streamlined custom build suited us and gave maximum flexibility without the overhead of a full CMS offering. The system will complement the NZBRN but allow us to target different audiences and purposes with the option of repurposing the infrastructure for different communities and uses. This would range from true community efforts through to a platform for capturing more rigorous observations that one might collect as part of structured research. We will also be exploring other data acquisition approaches beyond the standard web interface, such as mobile devices, and also look to provide web-based services that would allow the system to accept contributions and respond to queries from other systems. We will have our first prototypes available by Christmas and hope to make these available externally for comment. We would appreciate any feedback and suggestions. We haven't thought too much about how to position this platform beyond Landcare's initial goals, but there appears to be a need for such systems and support Andrews comment that a generic system that many could use is the way to go. Please get in touch if you'd like to talk over possibilities, otherwise I'll post details of when the prototype is available in this forum. Cheers Nick -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Andrew Watkins Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 2:42 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring NIWA is considering a number of community environmental data acquisition and monitoring projects. These have a wide range of common features which leads to the idea that we could provide a generic system to support such projects. I'm looking for software and tools that will assist in the construction of a web based community environmental monitoring system. The system has elements of web content management system, Database 4GL, wiki, and web forms. The underlying data models have a natural hierarchy Places -> location -> measurements -> values Each project gathers data about some type of place: Beaches, Estuaries, Lakes, Rivers etc. At each place measurements are taken at a location and form a time series measurements follow a process and result in one or more readings or values. values have a type and the data might be numbers, text or even photos or sound files. Each of these entities need to be definable in the system and have a set of attributes: name, description, representation etc. so for example in beach monitoring the group may wish to record just the name and location of the beach, while in river monitoring they may wish to add the NZ Reach ID. So defining a project involves defining the place type - and its attributes, the measurement types, the value types. For each we would want user entry forms and validation. Ultimately all the data gathered ends up in a database and groups can view reports, charts etc. My team could write all this but I can't help feeling that something like this flexible dynamic forms and data system must already exist. Either because someone already built a flexible environmental data collection system, or because it exists in some other parallel industry. If I do find or build a solution for this do any other groups have use for such a beast? Comments and suggestions appreciated. Regards Andrew NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd. ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/4m64sjIbjZLkaY1pitcEr5 To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. 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Hi I am definitely interested in this but merging with the dataversity workshop would be much better timing for me.
Thanks Kay -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Paul Fisher Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:54 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring I'm interested in learning more. The March date is better for me. Paul Fisher -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Colin Meurk Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:38 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring I'd like to attend but will be unavailable from jan25 until after 15 Feb - the march date would probably suit better colin -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Lynette Hartley Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 9:30 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring We at DOC would like to be involved in this workshop. Later in January would suit better than mid January. We are also happy if it was linked to the timing of the Dataversity workshop but that is not until March. Lynette Lynette Hartley, Data Analyst, Ecosystems and Species Unit Five Minute Bird Count Database Administrator 5MBC website Department of Conservation, Research and Development Group PO Box 13049, Christchurch 8141, New Zealand, DDI (03) 378 9562 -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Elise Smith Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:57 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring It would be very useful if the several agencies that are developing Web based Community Environmental Monitoring could have a workshop. Would you like to visit Taranaki mid-January? Or have an Adobe Connect call? I am very pleased with the way that TERRAIN works http://www.terrain.net.nz <http://www.terrain.net.nz/> (Taranaki Educational Resource: Research, Analysis and Information Network) It melds the web Content Management System to digital archives of text, audio, image (kete), and to GIS. All the needs that Nick and Andrew identify may be accommodated, as it was designed primarily with biodiversity needs in mind. It allows the use of on-line data/location entry (point and click web maps and web-forms), mapping, database updates, GPS connection, connects to wireless hub data-loggers (being used for both a penguin monitoring project and weather monitoring project),allows collaboration between stakeholders about site data, Public Participatory GIS (values identification), on-line questionnaires, and relaying data to national databases, etc. It would be useful to demonstrate TERRAIN, hear constructive criticism, and for you to see which aspects suit your developments. TERRAIN runs wholly on Open Source Software - and sits outside the firewalls and strictures of government departments (which often struggle with allowing programmes that staff wish to use). Lowest cost, highly adaptable. I had hoped to collaborate with the Landcare OurFuture Project http://www.ourfuture.net.nz/map.html - but our funding was a year ahead. with regards from Elise Smith Convenor, TERRAIN Ministry of Internal Affairs "Community Partnership Fund" project CPF112 -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Nick Spencer Sent: Monday, 14 December 2009 10:56 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring Landcare is actually developing this very thing (i.e. Web based Community Environmental Monitoring that provides Places -> location -> measurements -> values optionally encapsulated by projects) at present. We had an initial look at a basic CMS approach but for our purposes found a streamlined custom build suited us and gave maximum flexibility without the overhead of a full CMS offering. The system will complement the NZBRN but allow us to target different audiences and purposes with the option of repurposing the infrastructure for different communities and uses. This would range from true community efforts through to a platform for capturing more rigorous observations that one might collect as part of structured research. We will also be exploring other data acquisition approaches beyond the standard web interface, such as mobile devices, and also look to provide web-based services that would allow the system to accept contributions and respond to queries from other systems. We will have our first prototypes available by Christmas and hope to make these available externally for comment. We would appreciate any feedback and suggestions. We haven't thought too much about how to position this platform beyond Landcare's initial goals, but there appears to be a need for such systems and support Andrews comment that a generic system that many could use is the way to go. Please get in touch if you'd like to talk over possibilities, otherwise I'll post details of when the prototype is available in this forum. Cheers Nick -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Andrew Watkins Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 2:42 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring NIWA is considering a number of community environmental data acquisition and monitoring projects. These have a wide range of common features which leads to the idea that we could provide a generic system to support such projects. I'm looking for software and tools that will assist in the construction of a web based community environmental monitoring system. The system has elements of web content management system, Database 4GL, wiki, and web forms. The underlying data models have a natural hierarchy Places -> location -> measurements -> values Each project gathers data about some type of place: Beaches, Estuaries, Lakes, Rivers etc. At each place measurements are taken at a location and form a time series measurements follow a process and result in one or more readings or values. values have a type and the data might be numbers, text or even photos or sound files. Each of these entities need to be definable in the system and have a set of attributes: name, description, representation etc. so for example in beach monitoring the group may wish to record just the name and location of the beach, while in river monitoring they may wish to add the NZ Reach ID. So defining a project involves defining the place type - and its attributes, the measurement types, the value types. For each we would want user entry forms and validation. Ultimately all the data gathered ends up in a database and groups can view reports, charts etc. My team could write all this but I can't help feeling that something like this flexible dynamic forms and data system must already exist. Either because someone already built a flexible environmental data collection system, or because it exists in some other parallel industry. If I do find or build a solution for this do any other groups have use for such a beast? Comments and suggestions appreciated. Regards Andrew NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd. ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/4m64sjIbjZLkaY1pitcEr5 To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. 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its looking like March suits a lot of people. I'm up for that too. Perhaps we can setup a wiki to establish some common terms etc beforehand. Andrew Andrew Watkins Systems Development Team Manager National Institute Water & Atmospheric Research (NIWA). >>> On 12/17/2009 at 11:56 AM, in message <email obscured>>, "Kay Anderson" <email obscured>> wrote: Hi I am definitely interested in this but merging with the dataversity workshop would be much better timing for me.
Thanks Kay -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Paul Fisher Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:54 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring I'm interested in learning more. The March date is better for me. Paul Fisher -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Colin Meurk Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:38 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring I'd like to attend but will be unavailable from jan25 until after 15 Feb - the march date would probably suit better colin -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Lynette Hartley Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 9:30 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring We at DOC would like to be involved in this workshop. Later in January would suit better than mid January. We are also happy if it was linked to the timing of the Dataversity workshop but that is not until March. Lynette Lynette Hartley, Data Analyst, Ecosystems and Species Unit Five Minute Bird Count Database Administrator 5MBC website Department of Conservation, Research and Development Group PO Box 13049, Christchurch 8141, New Zealand, DDI (03) 378 9562 -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Elise Smith Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:57 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] workshop request RE: Web based Community Environmental Monitoring It would be very useful if the several agencies that are developing Web based Community Environmental Monitoring could have a workshop. Would you like to visit Taranaki mid-January? Or have an Adobe Connect call? I am very pleased with the way that TERRAIN works http://www.terrain.net.nz <http://www.terrain.net.nz/> (Taranaki Educational Resource: Research, Analysis and Information Network) It melds the web Content Management System to digital archives of text, audio, image (kete), and to GIS. All the needs that Nick and Andrew identify may be accommodated, as it was designed primarily with biodiversity needs in mind. It allows the use of on-line data/location entry (point and click web maps and web-forms), mapping, database updates, GPS connection, connects to wireless hub data-loggers (being used for both a penguin monitoring project and weather monitoring project),allows collaboration between stakeholders about site data, Public Participatory GIS (values identification), on-line questionnaires, and relaying data to national databases, etc. It would be useful to demonstrate TERRAIN, hear constructive criticism, and for you to see which aspects suit your developments. TERRAIN runs wholly on Open Source Software - and sits outside the firewalls and strictures of government departments (which often struggle with allowing programmes that staff wish to use). Lowest cost, highly adaptable. I had hoped to collaborate with the Landcare OurFuture Project http://www.ourfuture.net.nz/map.html - but our funding was a year ahead. with regards from Elise Smith Convenor, TERRAIN Ministry of Internal Affairs "Community Partnership Fund" project CPF112 -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Nick Spencer Sent: Monday, 14 December 2009 10:56 a.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: Re: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring Landcare is actually developing this very thing (i.e. Web based Community Environmental Monitoring that provides Places -> location -> measurements -> values optionally encapsulated by projects) at present. We had an initial look at a basic CMS approach but for our purposes found a streamlined custom build suited us and gave maximum flexibility without the overhead of a full CMS offering. The system will complement the NZBRN but allow us to target different audiences and purposes with the option of repurposing the infrastructure for different communities and uses. This would range from true community efforts through to a platform for capturing more rigorous observations that one might collect as part of structured research. We will also be exploring other data acquisition approaches beyond the standard web interface, such as mobile devices, and also look to provide web-based services that would allow the system to accept contributions and respond to queries from other systems. We will have our first prototypes available by Christmas and hope to make these available externally for comment. We would appreciate any feedback and suggestions. We haven't thought too much about how to position this platform beyond Landcare's initial goals, but there appears to be a need for such systems and support Andrews comment that a generic system that many could use is the way to go. Please get in touch if you'd like to talk over possibilities, otherwise I'll post details of when the prototype is available in this forum. Cheers Nick -----Original Message----- From: <email obscured> <email obscured>] On Behalf Of Andrew Watkins Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 2:42 p.m. To: <email obscured> Subject: [dataversity public discussion] Web based Community Environmental Monitoring NIWA is considering a number of community environmental data acquisition and monitoring projects. These have a wide range of common features which leads to the idea that we could provide a generic system to support such projects. I'm looking for software and tools that will assist in the construction of a web based community environmental monitoring system. The system has elements of web content management system, Database 4GL, wiki, and web forms. The underlying data models have a natural hierarchy Places -> location -> measurements -> values Each project gathers data about some type of place: Beaches, Estuaries, Lakes, Rivers etc. At each place measurements are taken at a location and form a time series measurements follow a process and result in one or more readings or values. values have a type and the data might be numbers, text or even photos or sound files. Each of these entities need to be definable in the system and have a set of attributes: name, description, representation etc. so for example in beach monitoring the group may wish to record just the name and location of the beach, while in river monitoring they may wish to add the NZ Reach ID. So defining a project involves defining the place type - and its attributes, the measurement types, the value types. For each we would want user entry forms and validation. Ultimately all the data gathered ends up in a database and groups can view reports, charts etc. My team could write all this but I can't help feeling that something like this flexible dynamic forms and data system must already exist. Either because someone already built a flexible environmental data collection system, or because it exists in some other parallel industry. If I do find or build a solution for this do any other groups have use for such a beast? Comments and suggestions appreciated. Regards Andrew NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd. ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/4m64sjIbjZLkaY1pitcEr5 To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. The views expressed in this email may not be those of Landcare Research New Zealand Limited. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/31xowrAUoxppwXQKwOFrcH To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/1xkCvEbHO8aaKlolicWmCK To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org ############################################## This e-mail (and attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. ############################################## ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/aY5J2dcpTi3av8s6UUous To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. The views expressed in this email may not be those of Landcare Research New Zealand Limited. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/3oUQT2uTQWnb8YOWI8c3PZ To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org You are prohibited from distributing this E-mail without permission. If you have received this E-mail by mistake or are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and erase the message immediately. This E-mail message and any accompanying data is confidential and may be legally privileged. The Nelson City Council does not warrant or guarantee that this communication is free of errors, virus or interference. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal. ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/mVDuYGU8fIdpXG6TTr4UD To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org This e-mail message and any attached files may contain confidential information, and may be subject to legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete. Any views expressed in this message are not necessarily the official view of Tasman District Council. For more information about Tasman District Council, please visit our website at http://www.tasman.govt.nz ----------------------------------------- Full text of this topic in Dataversity Public Discussion: http://dataversity.org.nz/r/topic/teJAgJDyqRf0tgBkYLLFp To leave Dataversity Public Discussion, email <email obscured>?Subject=unsubscribe Start your own free groups and site with OnlineGroups.Net http://onlinegroups.net Host your own online groups site with GroupServer http://groupserver.org NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd.
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